Friday, 14 March 2014

For Angel Lawin the Eranoite

Recently Angel Lawin, the man who introduced me to Erano, posted a comment on this blog and also on Facebook which I shall deal with here.

"This is another comment THAT BLOGGER AT ANSWERINGJUDAISM HAD made:

"the curses mentioned in the passages of Deuteronomy are not carried over in the New Covenant, but nevertheless, they serve as a reminder not to anger God lest he subject you to judgement"

mY REPLY:

Who are you to say that when you are not a prophet of God??

Can't you see with your OWN TWO EYES HOW SUCH DISASTROUS EVENTS ARE HAPPENING TODAY AND YET YOU SAY SUCH STUPIDITY??

YOU MEAN GOD HAVE LET SUCH DISASTERS TODAY BECAUSE THIS IS A BLESSING FROM HIM?? YOU JUST MADE GOD A LIAR IN WHAT HE DECREED IN DEUT.28:58-61 AND DEUT.11:26-28

YOU ARE NOW DECEIVING HUMANITY NOW!!

YOU WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE TO GOD IN WHAT YOU HAVE SAID BECAUSE YOU CLAIM TO BE SENT BY GOD TO THE JEWS BUT HAVE NOT SHOWN ANY PROOF OF IT IN SCRIPTURE.

YOU HAVE NOT REFUTED ANYTHING, YOU JUST HID, YOU COWARD!"

Again the curses found in Deuteronomy 28:58-61 and Deuteronomy 11:26-28 are not happening as a result of accepting Jesus, quite to the contrary, he prophesied these things would happen before his return and restoration of all things. I am not saying suffering is necessarily a blessing.

Suffering can happen for several reasons, you can suffer for rightousness sake, you can suffer because of evil you have done, or suffering can be a trial to test your loyalty to God, one such example of a trial being Job, where despite his suffering remained faithful to God.

You cannot assume someone is suffering due to their sins, you need to discern WHY they are suffering.

"WHAT NEW COVENANT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THAT JESUS YOU ARE PREACHING in your blog WAS IN REALITY PUNISHED BY GOD FOR HIS OWN WRONGDOING?

HOW DARE YOU SAY YOU REFUTED US ABOUT GOD'S OWN WORD IN 2 SAM.7:14? YOU DID NOT REFUTE US, You refuted God Himself! GOD HIMSELF SAID THAT THE MESSIAH FROM THE LINE OF DAVID WHO IS NOW JESUS, WILL BE FLOGGED BY MEN WHEN HE COMMITS WRONG. AND JESUS THE SON OF DAVID WAS FLOGGED -WHICH ONLY MEANS HE COMMITTED WRONG.

"I WILL BE HIS FATHER, AND HE WILL BE MY SON. WHEN HE DOES WRONG, I WILL PUNISH HIM WITH THE ROD OF MEN, WITH FLOGGINGS INFLICTED BY MEN."
II Samuel 7:14 (NIV)

DON"T YOU REALIZE THAT THE VERY FACT THAT GOD SAID THE MESSIAH FROM THE LINE OF DAVID WILL BE FLOGGGED BY MEN FOR HIS OWN WRONG, THAT AUTOMATICALLY MAKES THE APOSTLES AND THEIR CLAIMS ABOUT JESUS AS GOD, SON OF GOD, AND PROPHET, who died for the sins of mankind- AS ALL LIES AND FABRICATIONS because it goes against what GOD SAID IN 2 SAM. 7:14???"

The New Covenant that I am referring to is the covenant found in Jeremiah 31:31-34 which was ushered in by Yeshua or Jesus:
"Jeremiah 31:31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
    “when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
    and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
    I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
    to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
    though I was a husband to[d] them,[e]”
declares the Lord.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
    after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
    and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
    and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
    or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
    from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
    and will remember their sins no more.”"

I have EVERY right to say I refuted your points Lawin, because you have NOT provided a rebuttal to my points, You simply ignore them and repeat the claims of your prophet and you barely even scratch the points I make within my writings. As I have ALREADY pointed out to you, 2 Samuel 7:14 HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE CRUCIFIXION. Jesus did suffer at the hands of his people, BUT HE SUFFERED FOR THE SINS OF OTHERS, he did NOT have any sins to suffer for.

2 Samuel 7:14 in it's context doesn't even say the person WILL sin, it's speaking of what happens IF a person doesn't obey God. Jesus did not fall under the condemnation of the passage.


"HOW POOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS, THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE NO CHOICE TO FIRST PROVE YOURSELF AS THE PROPHET MENTIONED BY GOD IN DEUT.18:18-19, THAT IT IS GOD WHO HAD PUT HIS WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH AND HAD SENT YOU TO SPEAK ABOUT HIS WORDS IN THE BIBLE.

YOU ARE TWISTING GOD'S OWN WORD IN 2 SAM.7:14 WHY JESUS WILL BE FLOGGED AND THAT IS A PROOF THAT YOU ARE IMITATING SATAN IN WHAT HE DID WHEN HE OVERTURNED GOD'S COMMANDMENT TO ADAM AND EVE IN GENESIS 3:1-4. YOU ALSO TWISTED GOD'S COMMANDMENT IN DEUT.24:16 THAT THE INNOCENT SHALL NOT BE PUNISHED FOR THE SINS OF ANOTHER BECAUSE YOU INSIST THAT GOD HAD ALLOWED A SO-CALLED INNOCENT WHOM YOU CLAIM AS HIS SON, BE SPIT UPON, MOCKED BEATEN AND KILLED FOR THE SINS OF OTHERS. YOU JUST MADE THE RIGHTEOUS GOD A BARBARIC GOD!

YOU WILL BE PUNISHED BY GOD IN WHAT YOU HAVE SAID IN YOUR BLOG because you are speaking such lies about HIM.

WHAT GOD SAID IN DEUT.18:19 WILL HAPPEN TO YOU. IF JESUS HIMSELF WAS PUNISHED BY GOD HOW MUCH YOU WHO COMMITTED SUCH BLASPHEMIES.

IF YOU ARE A MAN LET THE WHOLE WORLD MAKE OUR COMMENTS VISIBLE IN YOUR BLOG. Do not hide it, nor block it. Are you afraid that the world may see how you will be refuted and be put to shame? Don't be a coward."

The reason I choose not to post your comments again is because I am sick of having to address the same points raised by you over and over again and your utter refusal to tackle what I am saying, we end up going around in circles and I have better things to do with my time. If you repeat your objections and don't address my points, don't waste my time commenting.

Again with respect to Deuteronomy 24:16:
"16 Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin."

Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:20 which are the same as one another and are not addressing vicarious atonement, they are referring to us being responsible for our own sins. Jesus dying for our sins is not repudiated by the passages in the slightest. Jesus death on the cross doesn't take our responsibility away and we are still held accountable, but we can be forgiven of our sins by his atoning sacrifice and death on the cross.

I am aware that Deuteronomy 18:19 is  warning to those who reject the prophet like Moses, but this doesn't prove your prophet to be such an individual, thus it's safe to ignore him and refute his claims.

"SINCE YOU DID NOT FEAR THE WORDS OF GOD THAT HE HAD PUT INTO THE MOUTH OF THE REAL PROPHET LIKE MOSES  BUT INSTEAD REVERED EVEN MORE THE MADE UP BY GOD BY THE APOSTLES-WHOM GOD HAD NOT SENT- READ HOW GOD WILL CALL YOU INTO ACCOUNT:

How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge? If you had responded to my rebuke, I would have poured out my heart to you and made my thoughts known to you. But since you rejected me when I called and no one gave heed when I stretched out my hand, since you ignored all my advice and would not accept my rebuke, I IN TURN WILL LAUGH AT YOUR DISASTER; I WILL MOCK WHEN CALAMITY OVERTAKES YOU - when calamity overtakes you like a storm, when disaster sweeps over you like a whirlwind, when distress and trouble overwhelm you. "Then they will call to me but I will not answer; they will look for me but will not find me. Since they hated knowledge and did not choose to fear the LORD,
Proverbs 1:22-29 (NIV)

PS. read this article and see what God had destined upon you as being one of the REAL FALSE PROPHETS

(website link Lawin posted)"

You need to show that the apostles were not sent by God, all your prophet has done is make assertion after assertion and twisting the Bible grossly out of context and claim he is receiving divine revelation. The fact he makes so many blunders, much like hacks such as Joseph Smith or Muhammad, shows he is NOT a prophet, but is actually speaking absurdities from his own lips. If Erano is the prophet like Moses, then I am Chuck Norris.

"THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD SWALLOW- YOU ARE NOT SENT BY GOD, What you say about God sending you as an apologist for the Jews is A DELUSION. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, IT IS MAESTRO EVANGELISTA WHO HAD PROVEN HIMSELF AS THE REAL PROPHET like Moses in Deut.18:18-19, SENT BY GOD BECAUSE HIS Bible revelations about the real name of God and the real Jesus in thename.ph IS NOT OUT OF HIS OWN STUDY OF THE BIBLE, IT IS ALL FROM GOD!"

I have had an interest in apologetics for a time and Jacob Prasch and Michael Brown (the latter I have withdrawn support from) have had an impact on me for a time. While God may not of used words to compel me create this blog, there is certainly a burden he has put in me to respond to Jewish objections and demonstrate Jesus as the Messiah who has risen from the dead and I pray that God keeps me from having a selfish motive in doing so.

The onus of proof Lawin, is on you, your friends and your prophet to show Erano is the prophet like Moses. So far, you have not demonstrated such even after me responding to your prophet and your objections. The fact you guys repeat the same errors over and over only demonstrates your inability to address my arguments.

Your prophet has also robbed you of the ability to discern truth from error and you erroneously assume that what Erano teaches is from God himself and not from an accurate study of the Bible.

Any crackpot can claim a Revelation from God, which is what snakes such as the Word Faith Teachers and Kansas City Prophets do, when you can't find what they say in the Bible, they claim they received divine revelation and use the "Don't Touch God's Anointed" card to scare their congregations into accepting their conclusions.

Your prophet claims to be unassailable and it allow for your religion not to be examined under careful scrutiny, because if we do examine your religion, it is apostate, heretical and spiritually and intellectually bankcrupt.

Do yourself and your friends a favour and study the scriptures for yourselves.

One last thing, I HAVE NOT CLAIMED ONCE TO BE A PROPHET.

Answering Judaism.

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