Wednesday 26 February 2014

An examination of "THE PROPHECY OF GOOD AGAINST EVIL": Expose of Maestro Erano M Evangelista 4

Carrying on from where we left off, Erano once again raises the subject of "man cannot die for the sins of another" I have stated in the past regarding Exodus 33:11 and 30-31, Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:20:
"Let's deal with this snake's (referring to Erano) distortions one by one. Jesus took the curse of the Law on himself that he may redeem us for it, but it doesn't mean he sinned at all, The Father poured out his wrath on his Son because Jesus had taken the sins on the world on himself. He became a guilt offering as Isaiah 53 puts it, or an asham that took away our sin. His quotation of Deuternomy 24:16 doesn't disprove my position. Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:20 which are the same as one another are not addressing vicarious atonement, it is referring to us being responsible for our own sins. Jesus dying for our sins is not repudiated by the passages in the slightest.

As I have stated in my video response to Eli Cohen, Passages like Jeremiah 19 condemns human sacrifice but nowhere in the TANAKH does it explicitly say or implicitly say that a righteous man cannot willingly lay his life down for others to atone for them, I have often spoke about the death of the righteous found in the Talmud which I have spoken about in other videos. Although Moses offers himself to be blotted out, God refuses to blot him out and says "I only blot out those who sin against me". Nevertheless, the possiblity of vicarious sacrifice is not out of the question."

There are other points he raises in Ezekiel such as the following:

   "God reiterated the commandment He had given to Moses regarding sins. There is no truth in the doctrine of "original sin." Adam and Eve committed sin in the Garden; they are the ones who received the punishment. The religions say the sins of Adam and Eve have gone to up to our generation. This is not true according what is written in the Holy Bible! 

   Let us read the elaboration of the commandment, and may we find the way to our salvation.
The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him. 
Ezekiel 18:20 (NIV)
   To sum it up, even Jesus cannot save us."

Such blasphemy, the last statement shows that Erano is one of the false prophets that Jesus himself warned about and told us to avoid. The abuse of Ezekiel 18 is already covered here: http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/how-erano-evangelista-deceived-humanity.html

Original sin again doesn't say that a man is not responsible for his own evil and sin. God will hold that person to account if they refuse to repent.

   "When we commit sin, does God punish us right away?
"But if a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. 
Ezekiel 18:21 (NIV)
   No, God doesn't punish us right away; we are given the chance to redeem ourselves: reform and return to God. Other times, it is only when we have committed a sin, do we realize that it is wrong. 

   According to the teachings of the religions, our sins are recorded in heaven, is there truth in it?
None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him. 
Because of the righteous things he has done, he will live.
Ezekiel 18:22 (NIV)
   Maestro Eraño M. Evangelista says: there is no such thing. We only need to repent, change our ways and return to God. 

   Does God take pleasure in the death of a sinner?
Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live? 
Ezekiel 18:23 (NIV)
   God wants us to repent for our sins, reform and return to Him."

God does allow for time to repent yes, that is true. Also, WE DON'T DENY REPENTANCE. also to say "Maestro Eraño M. Evangelista says: there is no such thing. We only need to repent, change our ways and return to God." and use that as his licence to try to refute original sin, is borderline ridiculous.

    "What about Jesus, who knew the true teaching, committed a sin, what happened to him?
If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin, 
he will die for it; because of the sin he has committed he will die.
Ezekiel 18:26 (NIV)
   Jesus, as he suffered on the cross, cried: "My God, My God, Why have you forsaken me?" - Psalm 22:1, Maestro Evangelista asks: was Jesus asking for forgiveness or was he blaming God? 

   He was blaming God on the cross; God did not answer him, and he was forsaken! 

   This is the time that we should wake up. 

   Does God want Jesus to die?
For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone,
declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!
Ezekiel 18:32 (NIV)
   Jesus died because he did not repent and did not ask forgiveness from God."

The subject of Psalm 22 and the misuse by Erano on that point has been covered here, as well as who Jesus died for: http://answering-judaism.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/how-erano-evangelista-deceived-humanity.html

Jesus did not suffer on the cross for his own sin, he suffered for others, the article above addresses the point about Ezekiel 18 which refutes it's misuse and misapplication. Exodus 32 about Moses asking God to blot his name out is also covered there.

Lets go back to the subject of Jeremiah 31.

"Let us return to:
Instead, everyone will die for his own sin; whoever eats sour grapes – 
his own teeth will be set on edge. 
Jeremiah 31:30 (NIV)
   No man can save another man with regard to sin; each and every one of us will have to ask forgiveness directly from God. What will happen next?
"The time is coming," declares the LORD, 
"when I will make a new covenant 
with the house of Israel 
and with the house of Judah. 
Jeremiah 31:31 (NIV)
"The time is coming" - in our present generation."

No, the New Covenent has already been ushered in and it made with the Jews, Jesus even says the blood of the new covenent which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins, as found in the Lord's Supper. Plus the argument about the subject of the grape Proverb has already been refuted.

""a new covenant" - why "new?"
"The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will plant the house
of Israel and the house of Judah with the offspring of men and of animals.
Jeremiah 31:27 (NIV)
   This will be the new covenant between God and his new people, the people of the world.

   How is it different?
It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers 
when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, 
because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them," 
declares the LORD.
Jeremiah 31:32 (NIV)
   This is how God described His former people: they did not remain faithful to Him.
"This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel 
after that time," declares the LORD. 
"I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. 
I will be their God, and they will be my people. 
Jeremiah 31:33 (NIV)
   God is now mentioning only one house. This is the merging of "the house of Israel and the house of Judah with "the offspring of men and of animals." God will consider them all as the new people of God."

The New covenant's difference with the Old is unlike the Old where the law was on a tablet, it would be written into the hearts of the Jews so they could live holy lives, the circumcision of the heart. I also speak on certain issues pertaining to the New Covenant such as Gentiles grafted in and the Torah which I think may be interesting to you guys. It's a response to Asher Meza on the nature of the New Covenant that may interest you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k5y6gt-OOQ

Some issues raised in that video will also be covered here. As for "the offspring of men and animals" do I need repeat my self on the repopulation of the land?

   "What will we find in them?
No longer will a man teach his neighbor, 
or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' 
because they will all know me, 
from the least of them to the greatest," 
declares the LORD. 
"For I will forgive their wickedness 
and will remember their sins no more." 
Jeremiah 31:34 (NIV)
"Know the LORD" - the new people will know God and His Great Name. "
The name of YHWH, That's the name that shall be known to the nations. This process of the least to the greatest person knowing God is gradual, it is not something that will happen immediately and is happening over all the earth with the gospel coming to all nations and bringing people into the knowledge of the God of Israel.
   "What kind of an era? It will be a time when no man can deceive another man regarding the truth about God.
This is what the LORD says, he who appoints the sun 
to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars 
to shine by night, who stirs up the sea 
so that its waves roar - the LORD Almighty is his name: 
Jeremiah 31:35 (NIV)
"the LORD Almighty" - the title ascribed to God, because He doesn't give reprieve to His enemies.
"Only if these decrees vanish from my sight," 
declares the LORD, 
"will the descendants of Israel ever cease 
to be a nation before me."
Jeremiah 31:36 (NIV)
   In the end, there will only be one nation that will stand in the world, because all the other nations will come to it and join to become one nation with it, the New People of God.
 Let us read again:
"This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel 
after that time," declares the LORD. 
"I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. 
I will be their God, and they will be my people. 
Jeremiah 31:33 (NIV)"

The nation that is mentioned in Jeremiah 31:31 is speaking of the Jewish people and the Covenant made with them. However, they need to repent and turn to Christ otherwise they will not be recipients of the New Covenant. Gentiles do not have this covenant made with them, they need to be grafted into the covenant itself. The covenant was made with Jews, not Gentiles.

We shall move onto the next section in another article.

Answering Judaism.

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